On Saturday, December 10, 2016 at 3:14:07 PM UTC-5, Timbo wrote:
On Sunday, November 27, 2016 at 3:48:24 PM UTC-5, Tex wrote:You will find the origin of this quote at http://quotingeinstein.
blogspot.com/2013/06/einstein-. Einstein wrote the sentence in a letter of condolence to the family of his friend Michele Besso. and-michele-besso.htmlUpon Besso's death in 1955, Einstein wrote a letter of condolence to the Besso family—less than a month before his own death—which contained the following quote "Now he has departed from this strange world a little ahead of me. That signifies nothing. For those of us who believe in physics, the distinction between past, present and future is only a stubbornly persistent illusion."It is likely that Einstein said this because relativity suggests a four-dimensional space-time in which time is treated almost like a spatial dimension. Then general relativity implied that the universe lies in a curved albeit bumpy space-time in which it is impossible to synchronize clocks everywhere. This perhaps suggested to Einstein that time with its past, present, and future was merely an illusion in a complex space-time block in which nothing really changes. Our consciousness merely sees itself as moving moment by moment through that unchanging space-time block. Such a picture would be quite consistent with Einstein's determinism.However, Einstein never expanded on this statement. It is nothing but a statement of condolences for the Besso family. Einstein could do nothing later with the intuition that he expressed in the letter. He must have been defeated by the undeniable and fundamental Arrow of Time pointing from the past to the future. The Arrow of Time is the direction in which time seems to flow. This remains a persistent problem in physics. There are various physical phenomena that have a kind of one-way character developing towards the future rather than towards the past, but so far as I am aware there is no deep explanation for the "persistent illusion" of the flow of time. Perhaps it is not an illusion at all.In any case, the universe cannot be a brain!Tex
On Sunday, November 27, 2016 at 1:52:37 PM UTC-6, Amos wrote:
On Sunday, 27 November 2016 19:12:36 UTC, Tex wrote:On Sunday, November 27, 2016 at 5:28:54 AM UTC-6, Amos wrote:The universe is a giant brain and each and every photon, electron, atom, molecule, planet, star, or galaxy, is simply a reflection of it's workings and every living cell and living organism, a reflection of it's thoughts and imaginations.Amos, that is a lovely poetic image, but as fact it doesn't work. The only way that parts of the universe can communicate with each other is via signals that travel no faster than the speed of light. Since the radius of the known universe is about 13.6 billion (thousand million) light-years, things on one edge of the known universe must be at least 27.2 billion light years from things on the opposite edge of the known universe. Given the expansion of the universe, those things must be much, much farther apart now than the 27.2 billion years that separated them at a time near the beginning. Since the universe is only 13.6 billion years old, there has simply been insufficient time for any signal to travel from one edge of the known universe to the opposite edge.So the speed of light limitation on signaling means that as a brain the universe would be very, very slow in thinking or reacting. And since the Hubble Expansion of the universe provides an absolute maximum to the distance over which communication is possible, there will be parts of this brain that can never communicate with the parts of the universe near us.The universe makes a rather poorly designed brain. But your metaphor is quite beautiful. Too bad that it cannot be taken seriously.best regards,Tex
The distinction between the past, present and future is only a stubbornly persistent illusion. Albert Einstein
v=VYZQxMowBswThe universe has more in common with earth quakes than the human brain. Ignorant man once believed gods had something to do with earth quakes. It is simply that ignorance in general, makes it easier to keep believing in the super natural. For me, the universe seems very simple like titanic plates than the complex human mind.
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