Sunday, February 7, 2016

Re: [AvC] Starbucks Saudi Arabia: No women allowed



On Saturday, February 6, 2016 at 11:49:33 PM UTC+5:30, LL wrote:
On Feb 6, 2016, at 12:50 AM, "'Dingbat' via Atheism vs Christianity"<atheism-vs-christianity@googlegroups.com> wrote:

I ask: How about a man in a burqa?
Perhaps they were already in Saudi Arabia, discovered this regulation after their outlet was built, smelt the coffee and decided to open anyway:->

Well, it stands to reason. Saudi men (an all Muslim men, apparently)  will go into a sexual frenzy if they have to sit with women in the same room.

This May, a Malayalam writer and secretary of the Kerala Book Marketing society, Babu Kuzhimattom pontificated that 'skin-coloured' leggings could excite Indian men. Kuzhimattom, lamented that the youth refused to listen to "our elders," who expect women to be 'submissive'.

To explain his discomfort with leggings, Kuzhimattom recounted his personal experience of being "aroused" by a bystander who he thought was naked. "Only later my driver Vishaq told me that she was dressed but used skin-coloured leggings."Newsminute quoted the writer as saying .

The titillation over leggings isn't confined to Kumudam's sanctimonious readership and, like Justin Bieber, provokes global outrage.

Last year, a school in Illinois, US put up a circular forbidding girls to wear leggings, lest they distract their male classmates. The school designed a poster that asked "Are my pants lowering your test scores?"

In fact, in 2013, newspapers in US and Canada reported that schools were keen on banning girls from wearing leggings to class.

http://www.huffingtonpost.in/2015/09/24/kumudam-leggings_n_8187132.html
 
Of course, the answer is to bar women. They'd be better off barring men who can't control themselves, but that would mean coming out of the dark ages and we know they won't do that. 

It's unfortunate that we have to share the planet with ignorant Neanderthals. 

LL


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[AvC] Re: Starbucks Saudi Arabia: No women allowed



On Saturday, February 6, 2016 at 2:20:21 PM UTC+5:30, Dingbat wrote:
I ask: How about a man in a burqa?
Perhaps they were already in Saudi Arabia, discovered this regulation after their outlet was built, smelt the coffee and decided to open anyway:->


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[AvC] Re: WILL THEY EVER LEARN: Or are we beginning to?



On Saturday, 6 February 2016 20:33:55 UTC, Rupert wrote:


On Saturday, February 6, 2016 at 7:18:26 PM UTC+1, Alan Wostenberg wrote:
Rupert, am I  "comparing performing an abortion to a killing that takes place in wartime"? Well it is killing an innocent human being -- not death by natural causes.  The violence is not as visible as wartime: it is more intimate.    Not for nothing is it called the silent holocaust. 

Not infrequently do mothers rue the act later in life. The healing of sacramental of confession and psychological counciling is available.

But since the good society is one that makes it easy to be good, we also need "laws that protect the weak and vulnerable and the deadening of conscience that often accompanies pro-choice sentiment". http://bit.ly/1mkt3gB

You didn't answer my question, about whether you agree that if all abortions were performed by hysterotomy and the fetus were merely removed and allowed to die rather than actively killed, whether that should be considered killing or letting die.


                  Rupert,
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                 own agenda. All other questions
are strictly ignored.

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Saturday, February 6, 2016

[AvC] Vatican sex abuse commission member criticizes Vatican & won't resign

Critic of Vatican refuses to step down from sex abuse commission

reuters.com
Saturday, February 6, 2016

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-pope-abuse-saunders-idUKKCN0VF0EH

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[AvC] Re: WILL THEY EVER LEARN: Or are we beginning to?



On Saturday, February 6, 2016 at 7:18:26 PM UTC+1, Alan Wostenberg wrote:
Rupert, am I  "comparing performing an abortion to a killing that takes place in wartime"? Well it is killing an innocent human being -- not death by natural causes.  The violence is not as visible as wartime: it is more intimate.    Not for nothing is it called the silent holocaust. 

Not infrequently do mothers rue the act later in life. The healing of sacramental of confession and psychological counciling is available.

But since the good society is one that makes it easy to be good, we also need "laws that protect the weak and vulnerable and the deadening of conscience that often accompanies pro-choice sentiment". http://bit.ly/1mkt3gB

You didn't answer my question, about whether you agree that if all abortions were performed by hysterotomy and the fetus were merely removed and allowed to die rather than actively killed, whether that should be considered killing or letting die.

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Re: [AvC] Re: WILL THEY EVER LEARN: Or are we beginning to?

On Feb 6, 2016, at 10:18 AM, Alan Wostenberg <awosty@gmail.com> wrote:

> Rupert, am I "comparing performing an abortion to a killing that takes place in wartime"? Well it is killing an innocent human being -- not death by natural causes. The violence is not as visible as wartime: it is more intimate. Not for nothing is it called the silent holocaust.
>
> Not infrequently do mothers rue the act later in life. The healing of sacramental of confession and psychological counciling is available.
>
> But since the good society is one that makes it easy to be good, we also need "laws that protect the weak and vulnerable and the deadening of conscience that often accompanies pro-choice sentiment". http://bit.ly/1mkt3gB

Along with mass starvation.
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Re: [AvC] Starbucks Saudi Arabia: No women allowed








On Feb 6, 2016, at 12:50 AM, "'Dingbat' via Atheism vs Christianity"<atheism-vs-christianity@googlegroups.com> wrote:

I ask: How about a man in a burqa?
Perhaps they were already in Saudi Arabia, discovered this regulation after their outlet was built, smelt the coffee and decided to open anyway:->

Well, it stands to reason. Saudi men (an all Muslim men, apparently)  will go into a sexual frenzy if they have to sit with women in the same room. Of course, the answer is to bar women. They'd be better off barring men who can't control themselves, but that would mean coming out of the dark ages and we know they won't do that. 

It's unfortunate that we have to share the planet with ignorant Neanderthals. 

LL


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