Tuesday, September 27, 2016

Re: [AvC] Re: Network Cosmology



On Wednesday, 28 September 2016 07:21:20 UTC+1, spectacular8360 wrote:


On Sep 27, 2016, at 11:09 PM, Amos <ga...@placeoftheskull.com> wrote:



On Tuesday, 27 September 2016 14:25:59 UTC+1, Kent Jennings wrote:
On Monday, September 26, 2016 at 10:25:04 PM UTC-7, Amos wrote:
> On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 06:54:01 UTC+1, Amos  wrote:
> The similarity between a living cell (microcosm) and the universe (macrocosm).
>
> http://www.nature.com/articles/srep00793
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>
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> At death our minds are simply uploaded to the cosmic brain, wirelessly. :) 

Either that or they simply cease to exist. I beleive the latter.

I'm sure that all the information in your brain will go somewhere.

Of course it will, into the ground or up in flames or into the sea to be eaten by sea creatures, with the rest of your body. 



Whether your brain goes up in flames, or is eaten up by sea creatures is irrelevant. In the quantum world, information can neither be created nor destroyed.


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Re: [AvC] Re: Network Cosmology



On Sep 27, 2016, at 11:09 PM, Amos <gary@placeoftheskull.com> wrote:



On Tuesday, 27 September 2016 14:25:59 UTC+1, Kent Jennings wrote:
On Monday, September 26, 2016 at 10:25:04 PM UTC-7, Amos wrote:
> On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 06:54:01 UTC+1, Amos  wrote:
> The similarity between a living cell (microcosm) and the universe (macrocosm).
>
> http://www.nature.com/articles/srep00793
>
>
>
> At death our minds are simply uploaded to the cosmic brain, wirelessly. :) 

Either that or they simply cease to exist. I beleive the latter.

I'm sure that all the information in your brain will go somewhere.

Of course it will, into the ground or up in flames or into the sea to be eaten by sea creatures, with the rest of your body. 

LL


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[AvC] Re: Network Cosmology



On Tuesday, 27 September 2016 14:25:59 UTC+1, Kent Jennings wrote:
On Monday, September 26, 2016 at 10:25:04 PM UTC-7, Amos wrote:
> On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 06:54:01 UTC+1, Amos  wrote:
> The similarity between a living cell (microcosm) and the universe (macrocosm).
>
> http://www.nature.com/articles/srep00793
>
>
>
> At death our minds are simply uploaded to the cosmic brain, wirelessly. :) 

Either that or they simply cease to exist. I beleive the latter.

I'm sure that all the information in your brain will go somewhere.

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Re: [AvC] Black Lives Matter movement increases homicide rates, claims Heather MacDonald



On Tuesday, September 27, 2016 at 4:38:02 PM UTC-7, Dingbat wrote:

The above doesn't raise the questions you're raising above it.

I haven't raised questions (plural). I have raised only one question (singular).


[Dingbat]


(1) Is it possible for it to be also correct that homicide rates have been increased by changes that police departments have made in order to satisfy the Black Lives Matter movement?

(2)  Is it possible for rates to rise to what they used to be? (see below)




 
 BLM didn't create institutionalized racism.

What caused homicide rates to be 7 times higher at an earlier date? Institutionalized racism?


The homicide rate rising or falling is a red herring.

http://fermentationwineblog.com/wp-content/uploads/redherring.png


Black people 2 or 3 times more likely to be killed by the police while unarmed is symptomatic of  institutional racism. That's why BLM exists.

Actual shooting of an unarmed black person. 
http://www.trbimg.com/img-552c52c1/turbine/la-na-south-carolina-police-shooting-20150413




 

Suppose we replace the entire police force in some jurisdiction with black officers.


There's a bigger issue.  The primary function of the police is to serve & protect the rule of capital,   not protect the well-being of the masses. So, changing the color of the cops would be mostly cosmetic.


 


http://66.media.tumblr.com/547b7e0c8c050d58f82c20cb9ce7cf7d/tumblr_nwqk4weLVp1ugt2xio1_1280.jpg


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[AvC] Re: The path through the Woods round the Lake and Speculation.



On Wednesday, 28 September 2016 00:45:23 UTC+1, ravn wrote:


On Tuesday, September 27, 2016 at 4:44:58 AM UTC-7, lawrey wrote:

           CORRECTION:   Last para'...Line 8, should read "Know" nothing of value.

Just go on & use "edit".  Click on the "more message actions" button next to the "post reply" button.

      Ravn,

          My appreciation for your help.

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[AvC] Re: The path through the Woods round the Lake and Speculation.



On Tuesday, 27 September 2016 20:50:48 UTC+1, Timbo wrote:


On Tuesday, September 27, 2016 at 7:30:06 AM UTC-4, lawrey wrote:


        It was a bright sunny day in Mid-May
2016. An old man felt energized to
        leave the mundanity that everyday routine in his life had become, and venture
        out into the countryside for a quiet, refreshing, ramble round the lake; his favoured
        walk in years past. And so it was as he rambled and mused on days of yor; (times
        long past), when he observed a young man slightly bent over quizzically peering into
        some reeds further off and in the lake, he had a pair of binoculars hanging round his
        neck. The old man had identified a twitcher, (a bird watcher). As he approached on the
        narrow path and came closer, the young man straightened himself and glanced at the
        old man, now in close proximity. The old man offered: "Anything interesting?" Still with
        his eyes firmly  fixed on the island of reeds, and with some verbal animation, the young
        man announced:  "I swore I saw a Bittern." He turned to face the old man with a smile
        of delight on his face....Neither had ever before seen the other until that moment, but
        at that very moment something happened for both of them, Something quite inexplicable
        that neither could have explained then, and much less, now.

        The feeling for both of them was instant and best described as if entering the others mind,
        It was as if they had known each other from way back. they seemed to know what the other
        was thinking, they both became a little embarrassed, uncertain of what had just happened
        or what to say next. What the old man would have called a pregnant pause. The old man
        saved the day by offering: "The only way to be certain is to step away from the waterside
        out of sight and listen, for its distinctive call." The young man stepped toward the old man
        and offered his hand, saying by way of introduction "I am Peter." and responded the old man
        "I am Lawrence, I hope you confirm you sighting of the Bittern, and enjoy the rest of your day."
        "Thank you." said Peter and the old man continued his ramble round the Lake and through the
         woods......That is not quite the end of the story and I imagine you didn't believe it was.

        Some two weeks passed, and the weather was set fine and warm, when the old man decided
        to get to grips with his garden, strip out the weeds hoe and rake. After another two days hard
        work he decided to replenish the borders and put some colour into them. Over this period of
        time, for some unknown reason he had been niggled by constant  thoughts of the chance
        meeting with the young man Peter, who was he? where was he from? how come he had never
        seen him before? Where was he now? But more importantly he had a strong conviction that he
        was to see him again and soon. The notion that the lad took up so much of his thought was
        intriguing to say the least. He made a list of the plants he wanted but was not inclined to go too far,
        and so it was that he found himself at the local village garden center. He parked his car and
        stepped out, Slowly walking around and looking at prices of various plants, suddenly he was
        tapped gently on the Shoulder, "Hello Lawrence! I knew you were coming today, I just felt it, I have
        been thinking about you since we met at the lake."....  "And I have been thinking of you Peter." They
        hugged, it was the most natural thing to do, they seemed as one with each other, but neither could
        explain why? They stood and looked at each the other and they just knew that this was a moment of
        hail brother, well met. and that they were bound to be friends. The young man coming on twenty
        years old and the old man in his eighties. How could this be, they did not know each other and yet
        they did know each other very well, or perhaps understood something of each other.

        The young man was studying horticulture and was about to sit his exams and was sponsored by
        the garden center, thus his presence in the area. He left for home a week later to Milton Keynes
        an hour and a half drive away. Since he left he has set up a small business of his own from his home
        and has visited the old man on two occasions and will continue so to do, they correspond every week
        by e-mail and will remain the best of friends until the Old Man dies. Of that you can be sure. I know this
        because I am Lawrence, the old man in this piece of natural theatre which turns out to be very true
        in every respect as told.

        But still annoyingly for you this is just the beginning of something slightly apart from what we have been
        discussing with some  agitation here on this site,

         I do not wish for further agitation but I would very much appreciate some serious thought given to a
         proposal that there is far more to what we term as consciousness.

         As humans, we may see it, as an internal awareness of the external world around us, lets say for sake
         of argument a state, in which the brain and mind exists without being part of the brain but as a function
         brought about by the same electro-chemical activity that accompanies the brains own activity, but not
         alarmingly for physicists, physical, something that cannot be observed in fact externally but can only be
         known by individuals internally, (We all know we are conscious.) What I propose and I have an idea has
         been proposed elsewhere, is that we are in fact possibly WRONG  to say that consciousness is simply
         an internal awareness of the external.

        Because of my intriguing experience with Peter I am more or less convinced that consciousness is
        capable of transmission from one internal through the external to another internal being. In short, we are
        able to share our consciousness with other like minded individuals, in a meeting of minds. That means
        not simply being aware of some other being, but being bound in some way to, and  part of another beings
        consciousness as if inseparable, or in and at one and the same consciousness.

        Lets leave it there for the moment while you give it some thought. Then if you have a mind, give vent to
        your thoughts calmly and with measured reasoning. I am asking "IF it is possible to share our consciousness?"
        Peter and I appear to have done just that, we live in each others minds, we speak each others thoughts in
        advance of the others expression of them, not all of the time, but when we are in communication.
        Something happens between us and I am at a loss to know what it is. The latest communication via internet
        was to do with dreams and I knew answers to his questions, I could not possibly know. I do not believe that
        anyone can fully explain dreams, and Freud for all his hype certainly couldn't, and I am not at all versed in the
        subject and no nothing of value to anyone, but something is happening, I do not understand. How could we
        possibly be in each others minds and share the same consciousness? What is this strange oneness?
        I have the feeling that this is in  no way unique to myself and Peter, but that many without realizing it probably
        are capable of transmitting and receiving the consciousness of others,

 My first thoughts were that some similar thing had happened to me. After attempting to recall such, I concluded nothing that evident. My second thoughts were pessimistic. I never was that much of a pessimist until something very strange happened:

Myself and two other pals were visiting Los Vegas one time per year for 5 years. (time out with the pals) To make it more fun and affordable, we had worked on win/loss strategy in order to spend a limited amount of money and have maximum fun for 3 days. We were quite successful in achieving that goal. We could only play the two highest odds games, Black Jack & Craps and only Black Jack in the morning at discount. As far as funny business, the only people who are attempting funny business are the players. The establishments have their win/loss set to where they never need to try and cheat anyone. So we were at a craps table playing our extremely sophisticated strategy when somebody rolled 7 nines in a row. Our strategy being strict, at no point could we jump in and take advantage of the phenomenon. Except if you do the math, it is staggering. If you had studied the game, read all of the books and collaborated as we had, it was mind blowing. It taught me a life long lesson about odds of something happening. After that, I started taking note of just how oddly things in life happen. 

Now, the shared consciousness thing is very strange given what science most of us agree on. Except I'm one of those few people who plays with their consciousness to see what I can get it to do. Early on, I was scared to try very much for fear of causing psychological damage. My goal was to always accomplish a realistic scene in my mind with myself in the middle of it and cause it to seem totally real. I even went as far as making what I would call repetitious props. Where I would walk the same stride and rhythm to the studio, set my chair in exact position, 3/4 filled glass of water in the exact place and so on. This creates a repetitiously remembered mood. Athletes are known to use it, except it is referred to as superstition. I don't think it has any supernatural value. I think it is somewhat of a consciousness control mechanism. Anyhow, I could get there. I could remove myself from this world and into the middle of this scene and paint. I would call it a self invoked hallucination. From that I learned just how extremely powerful the human mind was. Therefore I cannot be all that pessimistic about other things it may be capable of. Yet I also always have to consider those phenomenal extreme odds of some oppositional explanation to what happened to Lawrence and Peter.

Hope this helps,

Timbo


           Tim,

  Thanks for your response. I have scan-read it and will come back to
   you when I get to the office later this morning. Depends on what greets
   me at Cambridge, but I may have to leave my reply till tomorrow,  I
   will respond. Many thanks.

 

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[AvC] Re: Trumps REAL Message on Race



On Tuesday, September 27, 2016 at 7:23:36 PM UTC+5:30, Timbo wrote:
On Friday, September 23, 2016 at 9:37:19 AM UTC-4, Tex wrote:

I say: No shit?
 
but his supporters know what he's really saying.

Grandios, grandiosa? grandioso? grandiosity? grandioculus- an extinct genus from a well-known class of fossil marine arthropods, the trilobites.(Cambrian Period,)  

I say: The term you seek might be 'Grandiloquos troglodyte.'
 

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