On Thursday, 30 October 2014 09:21:51 UTC, Amos wrote:
On Wednesday, 29 October 2014 23:53:44 UTC, yar...@aol.com wrote:
On Wednesday, October 29, 2014 7:05:18 AM UTC-4, Amos wrote:
On Wednesday, 29 October 2014 10:36:19 UTC, yar...@aol.com wrote:
On Wednesday, October 29, 2014 4:21:46 AM UTC-4, Amos wrote:
On Wednesday, 29 October 2014 01:34:21 UTC, yar...@aol.com wrote:
On Tuesday, October 28, 2014 11:09:07 AM UTC-4, Amos wrote:
On Tuesday, 28 October 2014 14:13:13 UTC, thea wrote:
On Monday, October 27, 2014 7:17:50 PM UTC-5, yar...@aol.com wrote:
On Monday, October 27, 2014 10:59:31 AM UTC-4, e_space wrote:
On Sunday, October 26, 2014 3:23:02 PM UTC-4, yar...@aol.com wrote:
On Sunday, October 26, 2014 2:55:06 PM UTC-4, e_space wrote:which jesus do you worship?
The one that is God incarnate a member of the trinity commonly referred to as the Son. He lived some 2000 years ago and was executed and on the third day he rose from the dead as he had previously predicted he would. He is the one that had both a human and divine nature in one person and this was accomplished through incarnation as Jesus existed in the godhead for an eternity as the Son. He is also the one that will judge the living and the dead, casting some into hell for just and fully morally justified reasons and bestowing on others eternal life with him out of sheer supererogatory mercy, not being morally obligated to do so.
That one.and how is "that one" different from the one that others worship?
That's simple. Next time you walk up to a Jehowah's Witness ask her/him if they also hold to Jesus being God just as Jehovah is God. Ask if their group holds to Jesus being one person of the trinity. If the answer is no, they are talking about a Jesus that is fundamentally different from mine.
Mind you, I know what they will answer because I have talked to them.
Last time I talked to one of them, I asked them where the *power* was in their religion.
I kept asking and received no answer, and the older of the two couldn't get out of my
house fast enough.
Thea, the *power* that drives any religion comes from the *subconscious mind*,
I don't think I have one of those. How can you tell if you do?
Try holding your breath. A bit of humility and you will soon realise who is really in charge.
So, involuntary bodily functions are the subconscious mind? So, it is this mind that is responsible for the beating of one's heart and not the nature of the heart muscle tissue. I wonder what a scientist would have to say about that.
He/She may well say that your 'involuntary' bodily actions are by their very nature 'unconscious' actions.
Would you say that the operation of a combustion engine is similar to that? If you think that there is a difference, I would like to know what that difference is, in your view? If you think there is no difference, could we say that combustion engine also possesses an unconscious mind?
A combustion engine, although unconscious, is not a very good comparison, as it doesn't have a brain. A better and closer comparison is to think of the subconscious/unconscious mind as a computer hard-drive and the conscious mind as the display output of a computer screen.
It seems appropriate at this point to quote a saying from an Arabian philosopher named Monoimus (150 - 210 CE)
Abandon the search for God and the creation of other matters of a similar sort. Look for him by taking yourself as the starting point. Learn who it is within you that makes everything his own and says 'My God, my mind, my thought, my soul, my body.' Learn the sources of sorrow, joy, love, hate. Learn how it happens that one watches without willing, rests without willing, becomes angry without willing, loves without willing. If you carefully investigate these matters you will find him in yourself. ('Refutation of all Heresies' VIII 15, 1-2)
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