Monday, July 25, 2016

Re: [AvC] Re: THE WAY FOR YOU - for the mankind - to recognize the existence of the real creator of the universe



Am Montag, 25. Juli 2016 14:03:03 UTC+2 schrieb e_space:


On Sunday, July 24, 2016 at 12:24:01 PM UTC-4, manden wrote:


Am Sonntag, 24. Juli 2016 17:19:32 UTC+2 schrieb e_space:


On Sunday, July 24, 2016 at 10:12:45 AM UTC-4, manden wrote:


Am Sonntag, 24. Juli 2016 16:01:49 UTC+2 schrieb e_space:


On Sunday, July 24, 2016 at 3:48:45 AM UTC-4, manden wrote:


Am Sonntag, 24. Juli 2016 09:30:35 UTC+2 schrieb spectacular8360:


On Jul 23, 2016, at 12:22 AM, manden <dengler...@gmx.de> wrote:



Am Samstag, 23. Juli 2016 07:54:01 UTC+2 schrieb spectacular8360:


> On Jul 22, 2016, at 10:43 PM, 'Dingbat' via Atheism vs Christianity <atheism-vs-...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
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> Detailled  :  we must learn to live in real harmony ( caring , responsible , sharing ) with him and his creation  -  all human beings and the nature .  From that this mankind is FAR AWAY  !    

So are you, Manden. You're still using a corrupting computer. What about that?
A computer is not corrupt  !  Perhaps the circumstances or the people who use it  . 

Such as you. 
Sorry , you are much corrupt  !  Please ONLY ecact , logical , detailled questions or statements to the point  !  The rest will be ignored .  The topic is about the creator . Here you must be very careful and exact  !  NOT YOUR GOSSIP  !  

you have not said one thing about 'the creator' ... not one ... all you do is blow hot air with no details at all ... you're lack of acceptance here should raise a red flag, but you are seemingly too oblivious to notice that virtually everyone here thinks your a scourge to this site ...
The real creator is who has created everything . More of him is NOT recognizable  ! 

yeah yeah yeah ...  you already said that 100 times in the last week ... if its not recognizable, why do call it a HE? ... anything on that?
Read and think  ! The "HE" means nothing .

then why do you use it? ... sounds very much to me like your pushing something close to religion ... anyway, you NEVER say anything of substance, so it doesn't really matter what you call your god ... very boring stuff indeed ...
First think , then write  ! I am a man I can only use human words and then I take the most fitting article . BUT BESIDES THAT HE CREATED EVERYTHING IS MORE NOT RECOGNIZABLE . We do not know what is the right article ,
with high probability none .   
 
 

 
 

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[AvC] Re: The illusions of many paths are opening up to me now



On Sunday, July 24, 2016 at 12:01:57 PM UTC-4, Ray Of Heaven wrote:
On Saturday, July 23, 2016 at 6:17:29 AM UTC-4, Ray Of Heaven wrote:
They are illusions and not real because in truth there is only ever one path I do ever take and that path is my destiny and it is unavoidable, no matter if I think I am choosing or not choosing. So let me explain what is happening at this very present moment.     Berean Literal Bible  Revelation 5:9 And they are singing a new song, saying, "Worthy are You to take the scroll and to open its seals, because You were slain, and You purchased to God by Your blood, out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation,"    Due to the nature of The Blessed One Heavenly Father Shakyamuni Buddha's Unbinding Progressive Nirvana Given In Jesus Christ, even *more* people than ever before, from every tribe, tongue, people and nation are still being purchased with His blood because of the unique way I am revealing Him and His Father Buddha to *many* for the first time. What did Jesus say? Those who believe in him will do even greater things than he himself did. And what's the greatest thing Jesus and his disciples ever did? Call people into Christ's Kingdom Of God-The-All-to-be-In-One-Perfectly-Harmonious-Holy-Spirit-Of-His-Heavenly-Father-Shakyamuni-Buddha's-Progressive-Unbinding-Nirvana    So by the very nature of The Buddha's Progressive Nirvana Unbinding In Jesus Christ, we can expect many more people in the present time than ever before, to be called into His Kingdom. But also due to the nature of people in this world, I *still* can't call *everyone* and so that is not my destiny. My destiny is only to call *many* more to Christ than ever before.    But there is someone who succeeds me, someone who in fact is capable of calling *everyone* especially the Jews to Christ's Kingdom Of God-The-All-to-be-In-One-Perfectly-Harmonious-Holy-Spirit-Of-His-Heavenly-Father-Shakyamuni-Buddha's-Progressive-Unbinding-Nirvana.    But first you also need to understand that the nature of The True Word Of God is timeless. Sometimes it speaks of things in the past tense when in truth it is in the process of now being fulfilled in this world, because here is what is also happening at the present time. All the people who will enter God-World keep their connections with their offspring, their families and those whom they knew in this world, and those connections while they are simultaneously in God-World keep this world also safe until eventually the second coming of Jesus Christ.    So my destiny is clear, and this is in fact the only one-unstoppable-path there is :    World English Bible  Acts 13:23 From this man's seed, God has brought salvation to Israel according to his promise,    http://tinyurl.com/The1stSealBC    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xELTfJ-ZVBc




http://tinyurl.com/AnotherKingOf80sMusic

lol
 

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Re: [AvC] Re: THE WAY FOR YOU - for the mankind - to recognize the existence of the real creator of the universe



Am Montag, 25. Juli 2016 14:01:12 UTC+2 schrieb e_space:


On Sunday, July 24, 2016 at 12:08:54 PM UTC-4, manden wrote:


Am Sonntag, 24. Juli 2016 16:45:08 UTC+2 schrieb spectacular8360:


On Jul 24, 2016, at 7:12 AM, manden <dengler...@gmx.de> wrote:



Am Sonntag, 24. Juli 2016 16:01:49 UTC+2 schrieb e_space:


On Sunday, July 24, 2016 at 3:48:45 AM UTC-4, manden wrote:


Am Sonntag, 24. Juli 2016 09:30:35 UTC+2 schrieb spectacular8360:


On Jul 23, 2016, at 12:22 AM, manden <dengler...@gmx.de> wrote:



Am Samstag, 23. Juli 2016 07:54:01 UTC+2 schrieb spectacular8360:


> On Jul 22, 2016, at 10:43 PM, 'Dingbat' via Atheism vs Christianity <atheism-vs-...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Detailled  :  we must learn to live in real harmony ( caring , responsible , sharing ) with him and his creation  -  all human beings and the nature .  From that this mankind is FAR AWAY  !    

So are you, Manden. You're still using a corrupting computer. What about that?
A computer is not corrupt  !  Perhaps the circumstances or the people who use it  . 

Such as you. 
Sorry , you are much corrupt  !  Please ONLY ecact , logical , detailled questions or statements to the point  !  The rest will be ignored .  The topic is about the creator . Here you must be very careful and exact  !  NOT YOUR GOSSIP  !  

you have not said one thing about 'the creator' ... not one ... all you do is blow hot air with no details at all ... you're lack of acceptance here should raise a red flag, but you are seemingly too oblivious to notice that virtually everyone here thinks your a scourge to this site ...
The real creator is who has created everything . More of him is NOT recognizable  ! 

In YOUR uninformed and narcissistic OPINION, which is completely unsupported by evidence or rational thought. But, go ahead, continue to delude yourself. We just wish you would stop trying to spread your delusions and narcissism here. 
Sorry , no substance  ! 

not one of your comments contains substance ... you do realize that, don't you?
You CANNOT see the substance , because you are too corrupt ( like this corrupt mankind ) . Your only chance : try to make free from your corruptness far enough  ! 
 
 

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[AvC] Re: This is my preferred God-World Anthem



On Sunday, July 24, 2016 at 9:00:37 PM UTC-4, Tex wrote:
Ray, you really do not seem to understand. There is no Father and Son in Buddhism.

Well I'll still defer to what Buddha himself said in MN111 : "Rightly speaking were it to be said of anyone he is the Son of The Blessed One, it is of Sariputta, rightly speaking that it should be said. After me, Sariputta rightfully turns the wheel of dhamma even as I have turned it."

So Sariputta is The Son of the Blessed One and therefore The Blessed One is The Father.

Can't get any simpler than that. Are you inventing your own Buddhism now in which there is no Father and Son? 

 
And you can contrast your version of Jesus's last words (Other gospels have different last words) with the last words of the Buddha:

Behold, O monks, this is my last advice to you. All component things in the world are changeable. They are not lasting. Work hard to gain your own salvation.

Yes all component things in this world are not lasting. Jesus said his kingdom is everlasting and not of this world. 
 

That is the teaching in a nut shell. And the teaching has nothing at all to do with Jesus, Father, or Son or anything else from Christianity. The Buddha said that no one can save you from the Wheel of Birth and Death, but you yourself. 

On Sunday, July 24, 2016 at 5:27:54 PM UTC-5, Ray Of Heaven wrote:


On Sunday, July 24, 2016 at 4:05:39 PM UTC-4, Tex wrote:
Well I found the mention of two Arhats, Ananda and Sariputra, but the only Buddha that I have found in the text so far is Shakyamuni. There is no mention of Amitabha or Vairocana nor of Maitreya, the Buddha yet to come, that I have been able to find.

Sariputta was Shakyamuni's most mature disciple so he sets the standard for others to follow and which Shakyamuni praised him for. Among Jesus last words on the cross were "Father, into your hands I commend my Spirit" so everything still is consistent. The problem you appear to be having is you want the Father & Son's progressive solution for expedited salvation for *all* to be only presented in Buddhism.
 

On Sunday, July 24, 2016 at 1:56:17 PM UTC-5, Ray Of Heaven wrote:


On Sunday, July 24, 2016 at 2:05:46 PM UTC-4, Tex wrote:
To which Buddha does the hymn refer? IMO Amitabha Buddha is better descibed in your hymn than Shakyamuni

The Rainbow Of Heaven in http://tinyurl.com/The1stSealBC connects all Buddha's together so that question becomes irrelevant.

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Re: [AvC] Re: The short TRUTH about the TRUE God



Am Montag, 25. Juli 2016 13:58:05 UTC+2 schrieb e_space:


On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 4:17:42 AM UTC-4, Bonaventura wrote:


Am Montag, 25. Juli 2016 09:44:59 UTC+2 schrieb spectacular8360:


On Jul 24, 2016, at 11:53 PM, manden <dengler...@gmx.de> wrote:



Am Montag, 25. Juli 2016 08:25:15 UTC+2 schrieb spectacular8360:


On Jul 24, 2016, at 7:27 PM, Good Reason <meld...@gmail.com> wrote:

Assuming the universe came into being, it did so by a first cause.

It may be, but until you can identify it and present supporting evidence for it you can't say what that first cause was. You have no more valid information on the first cause than anyone has had since the dawn of man. Everything that has ever been presented as a first cause has been myth or speculation.
 
 
It is simple fot those who can grasp it  :  the universe can ONLY have been created by an unimaginable - superior logic and power  !  !  !  

In your OPINION. Your opinion is no better and no more valid than anyone else's. You have shown no evidence to support your contention. All you have done is make an empty claim. All the exclamation points in the world will not change that. 

What is wrong with OPINION? Are we allowed to have an OPINION? 

opinions should not be stated as facts ... and if opinions are going to be proffered, they should be accompanied by some sort of explanation or details ... you seem to have missed the 'fact' that madman has not presented anything worth accepting or denying ...
What I said are FACTS  -  the recognizable truth about the real creator  -  ONLY YOU CANNOT GRASP IT ; BECAUSE YOU ARE TOO CORRUPT ( you do not want to see that , but it is true  !  !  ! )  
 

On Sunday, July 24, 2016 at 3:15:28 AM UTC-4, spectacular8360 wrote:

How do you think it came into being? 

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[AvC] Re: Purvi Patel's feticide conviction overturned



On Saturday, July 23, 2016 at 2:17:42 PM UTC+5:30, lawrey wrote:


On Saturday, 23 July 2016 06:23:18 UTC+1, Dingbat wrote:
Last year, Purvi Patel was sentenced to 20 years in jail for feticide and neglect of a dependent, after going to a hospital for severe bleeding, telling doctors she had a stillborn baby at home and put the remains in a dumpster. The appeals court now recommends reducing her charge to just neglect of a dependent [and presumably reducing her sentence accordingly].
http://jezebel.com/the-feticide-conviction-against-purvi-patel-has-been-ov-1784150627

The lesser charge raises the question; what does one need to do to avoid neglecting what one believes to be a stillborn baby?

      Ding,
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                       Not sure if we are in possession of all the facts of the case that makes it difficult to proffer an honest opinion.

No one knows whether she had a stillbirth but as a juror, if you heard her say she had a stillbirth and rushed to hospital to stanch her heavy bleeding, would you believe or doubt her and if the latter, would you give her the benefit of the doubt? 

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Re: [AvC] Re: WHAT is REALLY recognizable from the REAL creator of the universe ?



Am Montag, 25. Juli 2016 13:53:02 UTC+2 schrieb e_space:


On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 5:22:14 AM UTC-4, manden wrote:


Am Montag, 25. Juli 2016 10:06:56 UTC+2 schrieb spectacular8360:


> On Jul 24, 2016, at 11:30 PM, manden <dengler...@gmx.de> wrote:
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> If I use the term " God " then only "TRUE God"  !  " God " has so many different and wrong meanings ( the many religions ) . The best what you can say , is REAL creator of the universe . The REAL creator of the universe has created everything
> ( that you must try to find out ) . MORE of him is NOT recognizable  !  But out of his existence follows what teh mankind has to do here ( and this is also the way to become able to recognize his existence ) .  

Manden, you are going downhill fast. Get help.
You and the mankind need help urgently  !  OPEN YOUR EYES  ! (if you can) 

to what? you haven't said a fucking thing about your 'theory' ... you use one liners that mean NOTHING ... they have no ESSENCE ... no MEAT ... get it? 
There is NO theory  !  We (the mankind) must recognize the EXISTENCE of the real creator  ! ( the only way ! ) 

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